The party’s going on forever and you can’t leave

I was at a girl’s place yesterday at 4 am, not sleeping, making her scream for God. Before your nasty minds mend stuffs, let me make it clear; I was debating a girl about religion. It started by around 12 midnight . The funny thing about religious people are that everyone of them have their own set of crazy ideas and their own custom made religion. So, even though you hear the same old arguments there will always be a couple of new crazy ideas.

The night can be summarized as follows:

Evolution of her thoughts on “mind” during the argument

Mind exists (not just brain) -> Brain is the root of mind -> Mind is just a subset of brain and I started with that view (!!)

Her views on God

I am 100% sure about my God -> I respect others believes -> Saibaba may be God!

Her prediction about me and my response

She predicted that I will turn to God one day, during the times of fear and the example she quoted was my son having a terrible disease (what an elegant way to sell her religion :P). And I made her agree that she might turn to Saibaba one day even though she is convinced that Saibaba is a fraud.

The sad part

She does not realize that when she stands for A and also for not A in a duration of one minute, she is loosing the argument.

PS: The heading of the post is from one of the talks of Christopher Hitchens.

It will happen to all of us, that at some point you get tapped on the shoulder and told, not just that the party’s over, but slightly worse: the party’s going on — but you have to leave. And it’s going on without you. That’s the reflection that I think most upsets people about their demise. All right, then, because it might make us feel better, let’s pretend the opposite. Instead, you’ll get tapped on the shoulder and told, Great news: this party’s going on forever – and you can’t leave. You’ve got to stay; the boss says so. And he also insists that you have a good time.

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6 Responses to The party’s going on forever and you can’t leave

  1. Sujith H says:

    Proud of you :) Now if Innocent would have listened your conversation he would have said: “Nee avaleyum vattakki alle!!!” :P

  2. Vivek says:

    @ sujith: :P

  3. Njan says:

    Make her go “Oh God”…. you did it the wrong way. The other way around would have been much better appreciated :P

    Anyway.. I think that a person who saw the light and realised the fraud should take a very soft approach towards the ones who haven’t seen light yet. They are still there, in a place where logic doesn’t work. We need to be soft to them… Whatever Richard Dawkins say about “militant atheism”. (especially when they’re girls :P )

    In my case I don’t remember the ‘believer” in me. My transition happened when I was 13! Woah… 17 years ago.


    PS: Which Hitchen’s book are/were you reading? (The HUGE one with essays?)

  4. Vivek says:

    Yes, I know and I usually try to take a soft approach (especially when they are girls). Even this started off like that but lost it in the middle. 17 yrs is some time.. I should point this to her who thinks people cant stay long without God.

    @P.S. Yes, reading the huge one – Arguably. But the quote in the blog is from one of his final talks.

  5. Njan says:

    Oh you are really daring to even start with that book. I thought I have to start going to gym regularly before I become strong enough to raise that one. (or raising it could be a substitute for gym ;) )

  6. Vivek says:

    @ Njan: Hehe.. true..

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